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		<title>Comment on Dear Informal Learning by The Clear Thinking Partnership</title>
		<link>http://pabial.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/dear-informal-learning/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Clear Thinking Partnership]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Sukh,
 
Thank you so much for your letter. I do detect a hint of cynicism in your words, so I’m encouraged that you are still willing to meet in spite of this, and I’ve captured a few thoughts for you based on the questions you pose.
 
1. You’re right, I am already here. The thing is not everyone recognises me and some people need to be introduced to me before I can help them. Those that are naturally curious have already asked me who I am and are making use of what I can offer them. I have found that there as some people who still think that learning only happens in a formal classroom environment, often as some form of punishment(!), and we both know that’s not the case, so I’m here for the people who choose to find alternative ways to learn and develop. Perhaps recognising me gives people permission to do things differently, makes them realise they’re not constrained by convention???
 
2. I won’t even be a “you”……. yeah, I can see your dilemma here Sukh, and I think I can make myself a little more tangible. You could think of me as a vitamin supplement rather than a meal replacement. I’d be the last one to suggest that I should replace formal learning. But I do think I’m a potentially nutritious addition to the learning menu. I don’t have to be an extreme alternative but I can be a valuable learning partner.
 
3. You can’t acknowledge me? That’s a curious thought. And who makes these rules??? Denying my existence helps no one; acknowledging that I exist does not change the nature of who I am or what I do, it simply makes people aware that I am there. At which point they can choose how to use me or to disregard me.
 
4. You can’t even give people an idea of how to utilise me…
Then I suspect we’re all doomed! Like you say, we must give people a chance to succeed and showing people how to spot me and giving them examples of how to utilise me gets them comfortable with the concept and leads them to make exciting discoveries of their own about what works for them. I don’t want to be controlled by you but you are a skilled learning professional and I do think you’re in a great position to guide and encourage people about how to learn from any and every opportunity that presents itself. Your involvement doesn’t make me less organic. To produce a delicious organic carrot you still need a skilled gardener, right?
 
I think we could work well together. We might need to relax a few perceived rules and steer away from what others might deem as a perfect interpretation of informal learning but what matters is what works in practice. If we can make it work and people get a good result then that’s us fulfilling part of our purpose.
 
Our first meeting is going to be a great collaboration!
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Informal Learning]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sukh,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your letter. I do detect a hint of cynicism in your words, so I’m encouraged that you are still willing to meet in spite of this, and I’ve captured a few thoughts for you based on the questions you pose.</p>
<p>1. You’re right, I am already here. The thing is not everyone recognises me and some people need to be introduced to me before I can help them. Those that are naturally curious have already asked me who I am and are making use of what I can offer them. I have found that there as some people who still think that learning only happens in a formal classroom environment, often as some form of punishment(!), and we both know that’s not the case, so I’m here for the people who choose to find alternative ways to learn and develop. Perhaps recognising me gives people permission to do things differently, makes them realise they’re not constrained by convention???</p>
<p>2. I won’t even be a “you”……. yeah, I can see your dilemma here Sukh, and I think I can make myself a little more tangible. You could think of me as a vitamin supplement rather than a meal replacement. I’d be the last one to suggest that I should replace formal learning. But I do think I’m a potentially nutritious addition to the learning menu. I don’t have to be an extreme alternative but I can be a valuable learning partner.</p>
<p>3. You can’t acknowledge me? That’s a curious thought. And who makes these rules??? Denying my existence helps no one; acknowledging that I exist does not change the nature of who I am or what I do, it simply makes people aware that I am there. At which point they can choose how to use me or to disregard me.</p>
<p>4. You can’t even give people an idea of how to utilise me…<br />
Then I suspect we’re all doomed! Like you say, we must give people a chance to succeed and showing people how to spot me and giving them examples of how to utilise me gets them comfortable with the concept and leads them to make exciting discoveries of their own about what works for them. I don’t want to be controlled by you but you are a skilled learning professional and I do think you’re in a great position to guide and encourage people about how to learn from any and every opportunity that presents itself. Your involvement doesn’t make me less organic. To produce a delicious organic carrot you still need a skilled gardener, right?</p>
<p>I think we could work well together. We might need to relax a few perceived rules and steer away from what others might deem as a perfect interpretation of informal learning but what matters is what works in practice. If we can make it work and people get a good result then that’s us fulfilling part of our purpose.</p>
<p>Our first meeting is going to be a great collaboration!</p>
<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
<p>Informal Learning</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Informal Learning by Sukh Pabial</title>
		<link>http://pabial.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/dear-informal-learning/#comment-1393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sukh Pabial]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Appreciate it, Paul. I enjoyed writing it :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate it, Paul. I enjoyed writing it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Informal Learning by pauldrasmussen</title>
		<link>http://pabial.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/dear-informal-learning/#comment-1392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pauldrasmussen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://organisationallearninganddevelopment.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/dear-informal-learning/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organisational Learning and Development&lt;/a&gt; and commented: 
Sukh, 

Ok this made me laugh just a little.  Good points though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://organisationallearninganddevelopment.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/dear-informal-learning/" rel="nofollow">Organisational Learning and Development</a> and commented:<br />
Sukh, </p>
<p>Ok this made me laugh just a little.  Good points though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Informal Learning by Sukh Pabial</title>
		<link>http://pabial.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/dear-informal-learning/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sukh Pabial]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Social Learning,

Thanks for being opportunistic, I knew I could count on SEO to make things happen.

Right, so you&#039;re all about this authenticity thing I keep hearing about? And engagement? And being all clued up?

I really don&#039;t know how you&#039;re going to get in here. I&#039;ve got someone else knocking on my door about how &#039;L&amp;D is dying&#039;.

Thanks anyway

Sukh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Social Learning,</p>
<p>Thanks for being opportunistic, I knew I could count on SEO to make things happen.</p>
<p>Right, so you&#8217;re all about this authenticity thing I keep hearing about? And engagement? And being all clued up?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know how you&#8217;re going to get in here. I&#8217;ve got someone else knocking on my door about how &#8216;L&amp;D is dying&#8217;.</p>
<p>Thanks anyway</p>
<p>Sukh</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Informal Learning by Andrew Jacobs (@AndrewJacobsLD)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Jacobs (@AndrewJacobsLD)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I&#039;m Social Learning and I&#039;d like to visit after Informal Learning has been please.

The difference between me and Informal is that I have a platform and you can count me, therefore making me much more effective.

And isn&#039;t being able to count it all that matters?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m Social Learning and I&#8217;d like to visit after Informal Learning has been please.</p>
<p>The difference between me and Informal is that I have a platform and you can count me, therefore making me much more effective.</p>
<p>And isn&#8217;t being able to count it all that matters?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Has L&amp;D stalled? by What kinds of benefits would L&#38;D professionals obtain through a postgraduate qualification? &#124; Sheffield Hallam University</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What kinds of benefits would L&#38;D professionals obtain through a postgraduate qualification? &#124; Sheffield Hallam University]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 13:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] blogger @sukhpabial who was obviously underwhelmed by what he had heard at the same event, asking: Has L&amp;D stalled?  I commented on Sukh’s blog by sharing my experiences, which are that the Google example is not [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] blogger @sukhpabial who was obviously underwhelmed by what he had heard at the same event, asking: Has L&amp;D stalled?  I commented on Sukh’s blog by sharing my experiences, which are that the Google example is not [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Has L&amp;D stalled? by The Twain SHALL Meet &#124; &#8220;Thinking Aloud&#8221;- What significant benefits would L&#38;D professionals obtain through a postgraduate qualification?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Twain SHALL Meet &#124; &#8220;Thinking Aloud&#8221;- What significant benefits would L&#38;D professionals obtain through a postgraduate qualification?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 08:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] who was clearly underwhelmed by what he had heard at the same event asking the question, Has L&amp;D stalled? I responded by saying that, in my experience, the Google example is not the norm by any stretch of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What makes a happy workplace? &#124; Thinking About Learning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 21:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I chose Henry because I enjoyed meeting him at one of the Connecting HR unconferences, subsequently at the inaugural L&amp;D Connect unconference and then reading his book, the Happy Manifesto. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Different worlds by Learning from collaboration &#124; Thinking About Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Learning from collaboration &#124; Thinking About Learning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] would drive people to do something differently. Vera Woodhead started this off with her story about different worlds. I really enjoyed reading about how she had to leave a life behind her and adjust to life in the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Learning from collaboration &#124; Thinking About Learning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 15:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] while ago, I said I wanted to share content through a series of http://pabial.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/learning-stories/. Content that would drive people to do something differently. Vera Woodhead started this off with [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] while ago, I said I wanted to share content through a series of <a href="http://pabial.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/learning-stories/" rel="nofollow">http://pabial.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/learning-stories/</a>. Content that would drive people to do something differently. Vera Woodhead started this off with [&#8230;]</p>
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