Last week, I had a musing.
At what point in your career did you feel you could start changing the conversation in the company you worked for?
— Sukh Pabial (@sukhpabial) May 31, 2018
This musing lead to a really good set of responses which I want to share here.
Nick Shackleton-Jones got involved and responded saying:
Ha! Nice question. I think I always knew something was wrong, but took several years to have the courage to point it out.
— N Shackleton-Jones (@shackletonjones) May 31, 2018
As you follow that thread, we had a good exploration of what we thought.
Ainsley McLeod had the following to offer:
Damn that’s a good question, in the past it took some courage and a influencer to take me under their ‘wing’
— Ainsley (@ainsleymgm) May 31, 2018
I enjoyed Ains’ thinking and where it took him.
Mark Hendy thought about it and said:
Great question Sukh. For me in my 3 previous roles it’s taken at least 6-12 months. I like to take time to fully understand the climate before forming firm opinions on things for which I’d need to influence a change in the conversation. Relationships within the business are key.
— MARK HENDY (@MarkHendyHR) May 31, 2018
He carried on reflecting and we had a good exploration of his thinking.
Twitter user, Inner Spiration, added these thoughts to the question:
Early on when I was young & unfiltered! Earned myself a bit of a reputation, some positive, some negative, but lasting… am still challenging now, but more measured.
— Inner Spiration (@innerspiration_) May 31, 2018
Our conversation covered the difference between ‘younger years’ and the ‘us of today’.
Lorna Leeson got involved too and this was her initial bit of thinking:
Maybe not always a good thing but I’ve always been a ‘why’ girl and tend to challenge stuff from day 1. Obvious caveat that it takes time to understand & assess, but there’s freedom in being new that gives tacit permission to ask questions/think differently.
— Lorna Leeson (@reallornaleeson) May 31, 2018
She raised some good points that are worth thinking about.
Later, David Goddin added his thoughts, too:
The first time I handed in my resignation aged 18 after 3 months being paid a pittance.
Since then have found many other ways without leaving. Think it takes comfort (even with discomfort) + need + interest.
— David (@David_Goddin) May 31, 2018
Interesting about the comfort + needs + interest. Read it to see where we took that part of the conversation.
For Paul Batterham, he was pretty clear when he could change the conversation:
When I started my own company.
— Paul (@paulbatterham) June 1, 2018
His further thinking was helpful, too.
After some time, Mike Shaw had some helpful thinking about seniority:
Once I started to realise that I could, which took a long time! When I started seeing others trying to influence & change ideas & thinking, then I realised I could. I modelled my approach on theirs. This wasn’t until I was in a senior position in the org. Wish I’d seen it earlier
— (((Mike Shaw))) (@MikeShawLD) May 31, 2018
We had a good bit of shared reflection on what this meant for him.
I had a response from Leanne Griffin about the question, and this is what she had to say:
I think it’s something I’ve always tried to do, ask why and try to influence change, but I’d often get frustrated or just annoy people, but I’m learning and getting better at how to influence, while still asking why and pushing for change.
— leanne griffin (@leannemgriff) May 31, 2018
And Meg Peppin had this thought to share, too:
Looking back ..changed it by changing how things got done and pinned it to results.
Invite pple to discuss together what makes work good..what would make it better…that changes in real time.
— Meg Peppin (@OD_optimist) June 1, 2018
I enjoyed this bit of thinking from Doug Shaw:
Pretty much straight away, and I’ve both benefitted and suffered for it ever since 🙂 https://t.co/oqkl3ZIqZX
— Doug Shaw (@dougshaw1) May 31, 2018
His thoughts on just doing what needs to be done made sense to me.
And finally, Gemma Critchley shared her thoughts on getting involved when she cares about the outcome:
This. When I start to care, I just can’t let something lie. I don’t think it’s necessarily about a point in a career when you change the conversation. It’s when you have the right environment, when you find kindred spirits, when you find a cause worth fighting for. @sukhpabial https://t.co/3krGFUHlmG
— Gemma Critchley (@GemStGem) May 31, 2018
It was a great set of responses, and a lot there to think about further.
What does it get you thinking about?